Ex Nihilo vs. Ex Abyssi

In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

(Genesis 1:1-2) ESV

The writer of Hebrews describes the creation of the universe as thermodynamically balanced. Apparently God created the universe from things which are invisible. We (that’s me and the Holy spirit) propose atoms and molecules.

Subsequently something happened to the message and it became that God created the universe from nothing. No doubt you’ve heard it said that the Lord created the universe from nothing. The thing is, that’s not what the Bible describes nor what our passage tells us.

We’re told elsewhere that the world that we can see was made from things that we can’t see. We can’t see atoms and molecules, but they’re not nothing. Two worlds are going to collide: established Christian doctrine vs. what the Bible says, because they’re not the same thing.

We all have the same evidence. Our choice of paradigm determines what we think it’s evidence of.

Matty’s Razor

Invisible isn’t Nothing

By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible.

(Hebrews 11:3) ESV

The doctrine that God created the universe from nothing is referred to as Ex Nihilo (from nothing), a Latin term. It doesn’t appear to have ANY scriptural support. It may just be pastoral fudge which passed into established doctrine because nobody could be bothered to think it through. It’s probably part of the strong delusion. We’re about to see two worlds collide as established Christian doctrine face-plants into what the Bible says because they’re not the same thing.

Our perceptions change over time but each one of us has an absolute frame of reference, or point of view. How we understand what we see from our frame of reference changes as we grow. We’re going to show you the alternative Ex Abyssi (from the deep) using scripture, chemistry and physics.

We can clearly see in Genesis 1:1-2 that there’s a body of water, the deep, present before the six days of creation begin. It was necessary to corrupt the deep in order to create the universe. Now, if a body of water called the deep was present before God said “let there be light” then obviously the water was used as the source of Hydrogen for nucleosynthesis. It turns out thatwe can use this as a plan for the physics of the universe and it gives us a theory of first cause.

Faith is believing in something that you can’t see, because of evidence.

– Faith, definition

What Happened to the Message?

2,000 years ago

  • The Apostle Paul: God created the universe from things which are invisible.
  • Ancient heathen: Wow, your God is powerful!


  • Modern Christian: God created the universe from nothing.
  • Modern heathen: According to the law of thermodynamics that’s impossible, your God is a fraud. In fact, since you mention it, why would anyone believe in something so utterly ridiculous? You realize that it makes you sound like an idiot? If you think that saying something like that, which proves how uneducated you are, is going to make me want to believe in your God, then you really are an idiot.


  1. Call upon the name of Jesus Christ,
    • believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead,
  2. confess your sin.

Simple Logic Prevails

Deductive Question 1

  • Question:
    • IF God created a perfect world which got ruined by accident,
    • THEN why was the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden of Eden?
  • Answer:
    • God didn’t create a perfect world.

One Reply to “Ex Nihilo vs. Ex Abyssi”

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s

%d bloggers like this: