July 14th

Torment in Flame

“There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day. But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate, desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

(Luke 16:19-21) NKJV

We (that’s me and the Holy spirit) have a model of the internal structure of the Earth which shows us how the various ways that hell is referred to describe a complex underworld which is congruent with all physical evidence.

In theology the different ways that the Bible refers to hell are regarded to be completely different things. Indeed, theologians want you to believe that all of the references to hell are about anything but hell. Popular culture isn’t willing to accept torment in flame, and mainstream science (SciPop) has everyone fooled into thinking that the Earth has a liquid outer core and solid inner core, so the theological community has fallen in step with secular science and reduced hell to mythology.

We all have the same evidence. Our choice of paradigm determines what we think it’s evidence of.

Matty’s Razor

In Matty’s Paradigm hell is real: there’s a pit that you can be saved from going to, in which case you’re in the grave; and the grave is a place you can be brought out of, which is made possible by the sacrifice that Jesus made on the cross at Calvary.

Our goal is to address the question: Is the description of hell that Jesus gives us compatible with the spherical hollow Earth model that we have deduced? The most detailed description that we have is Luke 16:19-31, the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, in which Jesus refers to something called the bosom of Abraham.

In Hades he Looked Up

And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

“Then he cried and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.’

(Luke 16:23-24) NKJV

Hell (sheol or hades) refers broadly to the underworld realm of the dead and encompasses all of its levels. However, there are times when the context makes it clear that these words refer to a specific level.

The rich man, in hell, lifts up his eyes and speaks of his torment in flame. Here’s the thing: Abraham and Lazarus are also in hell, but they’re not in flame. This may be confusing, but it’s compatible with our model.

The key to this passage is the idea that the rich man has to look up to see Abraham and Lazarus. We have orientation: an up and down. The rich man is below them. It’s not hard to parse this as meaning that Lazarus and Abraham are in a chamber in the lower mantle, above, while the rich man is on the surface of the molten core of the Earth, below. They’re separated by a great gulf of open space.

Cutaway of planet earth showing hell at the center
Seismological data confirms the internal structure of the earth as described by Jesus

This is deduction. It’s a simple matter of taking the parameters we’ve been given, the passage from Luke, and deducing how it relates to our model. There’s much more detail on the internal structure of the Earth in the Old Testament Hebrew than in the New Testament Greek, but they’re congruent.

Abraham apologizes for the plight of the rich man but points out that he had great comfort during his life above ground while Lazarus didn’t. He then goes on to describe the physical relationship between them. There’s nothing that can be done. It’s too late.

Why does this matter to you?

Why does this matter to you, it’s just a parable, right? You experience the world in your mind. You exist physically as a body, and your body interacts with the environment, but all of your sensory perception, sight, hearing, small, taste, touch, are processed in your brain and you experience it in your mind. When we think, it feels like we’re thinking in our head, but this is just the location of the neural processing taking place in our brain. The Bible tells us that we do our thinking in our heart. Either way, the Bible associates the soul with both the mind and heart. The mind isn’t the same thing as the brain. The brain is a biological system that makes the mind possible, but the mind is centered in our heart.

What happens when we dream? Our body is asleep in bed but somehow our mind is experiencing another world and having the same kinds of perceptions. In our dreams we see, hear, smell, touch and taste. In our dreams our minds are experiencing a world as being physical, but it isn’t. The world we experience in our dreams is a projection of our mind. In our dreams we’re aware of the environment changing to fit with whatever we’re thinking. The world of the dream changes along with the narrative of whatever story we’re living.

The rich man in hell lifted up his eyes, being in torments. He spoke. He remembered his former life. He doesn’t have eyes, mouth or a brain. His mind, his soul, is projecting his experience of the world. The mind thinks it has hands and feet, eyes and ears.

Your mind was created before the world began. It’s eternal. You’re going to continue to experience your environment for ever. What do you want this environment to be? Trust in Jesus Christ and live for ever in heaven.

Torment in Flame – Navigation

1IntroductionLuke 16:19-21
2The Bosom of AbrahamLuke 16:22
3In Hades he Looked UpLuke 16:23-24
4A Great GulfLuke 16:25-26
5Great Gulf or Outer Core?2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
6The Physics of Hell2 Corinthians 10:4-5
6.1Attacking the Assumption Underlying
the Gravitational Constant G and Variable g
Jeremiah 31:37
6.2Can Math Prove There is no Hell?(further reading)
6.3Cutting the Link between Mass and Gravity(YouTube video)
6.4A Unified Field TheoryPsalms 104:5
7This Place of TormentLuke 16:27-30
SalvationRomans 10:9-10
– Navigate your way around Torment in Flame.


  1. Call upon the name of Jesus Christ,
    • believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead,
  2. confess your sin.

Read through the Bible in a year

Reading planJuly 14
LinearProverbs 15-17
– Read 3 chapters every day and 5 chapters on Sundays

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